Pretty quiet in here...

topic posted Sat, February 23, 2008 - 9:06 AM by  Om Shiva
did everyone run off and get married?
lol.

i've started dating outside my larger art/dance community circle. interesting. because i'm such a freak though i have managed to find some freaks that just haven't found their way "home" yet, as we all end up saying when we find the burner circles.

i figure i'm either going to eventually meet someone here in my community or it will be completely random outside of this community, but someone who just hasn't found us yet. it would never work for me if they didn't like this kind of community anyway.

how is everyone else's experience going?
who here lives in greater seattle?
posted by:
Om Shiva
Seattle
  • Re: Pretty quiet in here...

    Sat, February 23, 2008 - 12:37 PM
    I was one of those freaks who hadn't found his home yet. My gf at the time kept after me to burn with her. Now she laughs at me (still close friends) because I am much more into the burn and building art and the whole freak lifestyle than she is. I say conversion is a good strategy, and it's fun to watch someone you love open their eyes!
  • Re: Pretty quiet in here...

    Sat, February 23, 2008 - 3:18 PM

    *****
    did everyone run off and get married?

    i've started dating outside my larger art/dance community circle. interesting. because i'm such a freak though i have managed to find some freaks that just haven't found their way "home" yet, as we all end up saying when we find the burner circles.

    i figure i'm either going to eventually meet someone here in my community or it will be completely random outside of this community, but someone who just hasn't found us yet. it would never work for me if they didn't like this kind of community anyway.

    how is everyone else's experience going?
    who here lives in greater seattle?
    *****



    Ha! You're funny! First I have to find a single woman who wants to go on a date! I don't think there are any around here.

    Other than that life is good!

    Good luck to you!
    • Re: Pretty quiet in here...

      Sat, February 23, 2008 - 8:05 PM
      She's right, I no longer even consider women who are not converted (or convertable) What the hell would that be like "Well Honey, I am off to Burning Man see you in a week or so." I can't imagine that, anyone I date will have to be a burner I am very willing to wait until that happens.
  • Re: Pretty quiet in here...

    Sun, February 24, 2008 - 2:14 PM
    Has four years of existence meant that all of the members of this tribe have fallen into their matches like fitted Tetris pieces? I hope some rows have been cleared, but I also hope for more pieces to fall in.

    • Re: Pretty quiet in here...

      Sun, February 24, 2008 - 8:54 PM
      i got lucky- in this tribe..! Ok, we are both in other BM tribes too, almost all of them, so tracking where we met could be dubious...

      I do gotta say, as I mentioned before, getting "The 4 Man Plan" book was the secret to my success and growth as a good date.
      I cant recomend it more highly! thefourmanplan.com
      3 of my gal friends are having great success with thier dating now too, due to the 4 Man Plan. I heard the author on a morning radio show, and immediatly went out to buy the book. Veeeery glad I did!
      • Re: Pretty quiet in here...

        Sun, February 24, 2008 - 9:52 PM
        As a man, I read up on this idea a bit and.........

        recommended it to all of my single girl friends. It's hilarious, but also very true.
        It's not a cheesy "rules" book, it makes a lot of sense for those of us who are somewhat open and liberated! Funny!
        • Re: Pretty quiet in here...

          Wed, March 5, 2008 - 1:05 AM
          yeah, the author Cindy Lu really nailed some truths down from hard experience. And she is so raunchy about some stuff, how refreshing!
          So far 2 gals in my little readers group ended up with relationships after about 3-4 months of fun dates-- thats quite a shift for all of us previous 'love train wrecks'.

          .
          • Re: Pretty quiet in here...

            Wed, March 5, 2008 - 8:01 AM
            in theory, the four man plan seems alright but shit, it's enough for me to date just one or try to date two at a time, let alone 4! eek!
            as a gemini, my brain is already all over the place in life. relationships are the one place where i seem to be able to focus more without getting bored in 3 mos. it's a grounding point for me - and dating more than 1 at a time is definitely not contributing to feeling grounded.

            now, i might have 4 interesting parties in my eye - but once the dating starts and if it goes past the 2nd date or so, and esp. if kissing has happened, my focus goes to one person.

            i have tried dating and being intimate with 2 guys (not on the same date, sillies!) and it really wigged me out. it feels icky to me. no matter how liberal i am, i am just majorly monogomously wired.. double M over here! haha.

            kudos to all that it works for though!
            my new approach is to consider guys that i might not initially think i'd want to date. maybe i've just been looking in the wrong places, at the wrong guys? well, not wrong - i have had some wonderful partners - just nothing that has lasted ;)
            • Re: Pretty quiet in here...

              Wed, March 5, 2008 - 12:32 PM
              Honestly? I think the 4 man plan isn't a bad idea really. I can actually understand the whole "one-at-a-time-please" feeling, but it can actually be a little damaging to start out that way. After a while of being single, men tend to build up that "I need to get laid!" energy, while women build up that "I want the love of my life" feeling and giving off either energy makes the opposite sex run in terror.

              Feel free to develope a "friend" or two, but still date. You have to take the edge off so to speak, being too eager to jump into a relationship is just a reciepe for drama. Having more than one option around to go have fun with (doesn't have to be just sex) also allows you to really see what works better for you relationship wise, and not focus on trying to keep making the wrong connection better. Drawing all expectations onto just one person can be a bit...well overwhelming (for anyone). If you find your grounding to be thrown by multiple, maybe that's because your overexstending your balance in dating (I.E. trying to find balance through someone else). Stay centered and let the boys flutter around you till you find one that wants to land, and you want him to land too,

              Relax, have fun, be honest put yourself out there and feel free to expand your own boundries.

              Tribe isn't a bad place to meet people, but I have yet to meet anyone (local) through this tribe. Personally I find it a terrible way to get to know someone, but a great way to find someone you would like to get to know. I'm not sure how posting "I'm single, who is interested?" here really works for anyone, but I know that getting out and meeting people with similar interest can often be fruitful.

              Your a hotty, and having a line a the door doesn't make you a slut.

              • Re: Pretty quiet in here...

                Fri, March 7, 2008 - 12:18 AM
                josh is so sweet. i love having him on my team!

                actually, i am def. not trying to make the wrong ones work and i know what works for me in a relationship and what doesn't so i dont really need to date around to figure it out. frankly, i've done enough goofing off and dating, etc.

                i'm definitely not pushing anyone towards anything or jumping all over them from the getgo, etc. I know you guys like to have the ropes, so to speak. i'm also not bullshitting around. i will only date guys that are ready for a relationship. i haven't been pushy or scary. Just being me. Whatever flows between me and a guy is what flows - or doesn't.

                sometimes it heavy sparks from the start and somtimes it's slow and gradual. either way is fine and i do appreciate going slower to get to know someone first so i'd hardly say i'm jumping in too soon.

                i'm definitely putting myself out there. At this point, I'm actually done putting so much energy towards it. I"ll continue to be open and receptive - just had my run with the amount of intention i was putting towards it and attracting a lot of dead ends.

                ive got some best guy friends locally whom i check in with about my behavior too just to make sure im not being a freak, or scary. They dont find anything off about my modus operendi so must just be timing. ive got a lot to do with the biz so maybe focus time is meant for that. when the dude comes along, it will be great. whenever.

                thanks for watching out for me anyway!
                you know i luv ya!
                • Re: Pretty quiet in here...

                  Sat, March 8, 2008 - 6:48 PM
                  Did you go look at the 4 man website?
                  its definately not poly, its entirely monogomy centered. And its not about focusing on gathering dates for dating sake. Only one guy in the group gets the goods on this plan, and thats entirely on your time and comfort level.

                  Its really about getting past your stops, meeting nice available and like-minded men on your timetable, and letting one of them to eventually win your heart.

                  There are some rather tough personal lessons to confront on the way, one of the bigger ones is being able to admit that up to this point someone MAY have sucked at love, (mayyyybeeee... i dunno.. whats the past look like?). Another is allowing the possibility that 'true love at first sight' may not happen this time around, and to still be open and positive and go for something satisfying and enriching. I found that to be a bitter pill until I got a sense of humor about it!
                  Like stated above in the thread, its an open minded approach and may not be for everyone all the time. All I can say is I'm happy and blown away by my and my other friends results from reading a simple little book!
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                    Re: Pretty quiet in here...

                    Sun, March 9, 2008 - 12:35 PM
                    i am definitely not past looking at myself in love <-- psych degree. lol. if anything, i'm guilty of over analyzing. LOL.

                    i have been really good at love in some instances, and not so good in others. always looking at what i have learned in each relationship and what the reason might have been for that connection. my last longer relationship is now my best friend. the only reason we aren't together is that the in love card didnt happen for us however, we have a very deep love for each other that bonds us forever as friends. i can hardly imagine him not being in my life.

                    another thing i have come to see is that i may not recognize him at first, although my heart tells me i will. even so, i have been considering guys that normally i might not, so i am being open minded about the package, so to speak ;)

                    it may just be that up to now, i have been cultivating lessons and such to be ready for that special guy. i sure have learned a lot about myself and others. ive got much more of a no bullshit approach and less tolerance for people's drama. my latest lesson is: i am not responsible for a guy's inability to communicate with me and it is not my responsibility to try to get him to talk to me. if he can't pony up, i don't want to be with him anyway. it's one thing to ask what is wrong. it's another to ask repeatedly with no response. it's the no-respondees that i can do without in life.

                    fair eh?

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